Chris Owns his dysfunctional behavior. All parents would want the best education for their children. He was booked on three counts each of first-degree murder and tampering with physical evidence on Thursday. All until they were diagnosed w/asthma then Shanann w/ her neck surgery which out of pockets 25,000. Chris did a lot to help around the house yes he was the father of the family. __________ I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments! Geni requires JavaScript! What a shame that you cant gawk at a picture of murdered children that r116 thinks they look cuter in. It was probably thousands of dollars in inventory combined with all that other crap they spent their money on. Nickole hadn't wanted to bother Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, as he worked out in the oil fields. HEARTBREAKING images show the soiled clothing and underwear mother Shanann Watts was wearing when she was brutally murdered by her husband alongside her two daughters. Maybe thats how she could afford to get manicures while their finances were in the shitter. Someone in one of the threads said they drove through the area and it's pretty barren and underdeveloped. r255/r257 is a moron. LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. Why does everyone keep saying, 'But back to Shannan?' Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. i saw a video where Shanann was making protein snacks with that thrive shit and said they were for the whole family to eat. The fact that he didn't anticipate her friends blowing up her phone shows how dumb he is. He later admitted to killing their daughters, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste, by smothering them with a blanket over their heads. LEONARD was unable to get details from her. These two mothers were hideous; they eventually killed their kidsand themselves. Shanann hidden in a very shallow grave. She was not confrontational and more withdrew. (ThePilot.com reports Leonard T. King, plaintiff vs. Shannon [sic] C. King, defendant in Moore County, North Carolina, Public Records - May 3, 2009)They had no children from their marriage together and have not communicated in over ten years he estimated. unless you was there, and Im sure you wasnt. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. That whole stunt with the MIL was something my mother would have done. She didnt realize how controlling she became, according to his accusations. "ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. Shanann Watts, 34, had two young daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste - who went by CeCe-, 3, with Chris Watts. "I'm worried about Shanann," she told Chris. Considering how Shanann gained the confidence of others and used them, I have no doubt she wouldve alienated the girls against Chris. But yeah. How she loved and cherished her. Those kids had a terrible life. No, not at all R256. What a tragedy. Cans Natz. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. But family members remain baffled by the murders, and police remain tight-lipped about how the woman and girls were killed, and what the suspected motive was. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. I know that being a pain in the ass isn't grounds for death; if it were, I'd have been dead long ago. R89, what EVIDENCE is there that Shanann had lupus or infertility? I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. Safe to say they were actually depending on Chris's 60k, which didn't cover their oversized suburban lifestyle. R58 even sounds offended that they don't meet his standards for child attractiveness. The person who deserves the credit for masterminding this sick scheme is Nichol Kessinger. I find it very odd that he did not have girlfriends in high school and prior to meeting Shanann and that we never hear from any of them. (He was moved out of Colorado for security reasons.). I wonder if she might have used that Thrive crap on the kids. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. Meanwhile, she was torturing and starving her children. It's 2:50 am and I can't sleep. That wasnt a real work trip, it was a boondoggle to cavort with her fat friends. The Websleuths crazies who want to blame the victim come here. Study up! Also said that she claimed to have been a domestic violence victim but was friendly with her ex husband. Celeste was born July 17, 2015 in Colorado. How did they pay off the $400k debt? She was an odious frau and I could believe she was a Munchausen's case. Hello. Banks have a duty to keep you from insolvency when you buy a house. Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads. Chris Watts is not a sociopath. I will be curious to know if he was on the spectrum in some way. She must have been extremely annoying when alive. Chris is a total hottie, Shanan was a a lucky gal. A bad attack meant a trip to the emergency room. The more I look into that marriage, the worse I feel. Colorado believes a child has the right to love, support, and significant parenting time from both parents. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. Why are you so concerned about what these children look like? Also a little insight into her horrendous personality from someone who knew her way back when. No wonder murder seemed like a reasonable option. Every quality I listed was well-documented in her videos and texts which revealed her dealings with others, as well as her attitude and perspective. Just bookmarking threads for future reading when I have time. Yes, people were buying things they could afford, but this That doesnt make sense. If you look at his fb page, shes still on his friends list. Is R58 a ped-o? Shanann Watts Met Husband Chris Online During Dark Period 8 Years Before Murder: 'He Is Amazing' Pregnant Mom Was Slain After Work Trip Then Allegedly Buried in 'Shallow Grave' by Husband. "When Shanann Watts blew out the candles on her birthday cake on January 10, 2018, with her two young daughters by her side, she had no idea it would be her last birthday or that all three of them would be dead in the coming year. I disagree r147, not with your assertions about how the kids would've ended up, but with Chris taking any of it into consideration. Here's what you need to know about Frank and Sandra Rzucek, Shanann's parents, ahead of this evening's interview. Spot on r147. Keith Griffith For Dailymail.com
At home they would be in different rooms and she was always too busy for what LEONARD had going on. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 44K views 3 years ago Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking. He didnt say much, LE spoke with him briefly the report is in the discovery. Always always have your own liquid accounts if you are married! That really upsets me. But DL is the only forum that doesn't immediately shut down even the slightest criticism of this woman. Has there ever been a more inept family killer? Watts likely justified to himself (wrongly, of course) their murders based on this. And charged all the furnishings on credit. She wasn't some hermit shut in who posted incessantly on DL. A Funeral Mass will be held 1PM on Saturday, September 1st 2018 at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church in Pinehurst with Rev. And isnt it a fucker that the Topix forums went away? Can we get a link to something about her. Unless theres a strong family history and a red flag symptom, no one that age has a fucking colonoscopy. Her story is that of the majority of bisexual men living a lie. In the early hours of August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado, American oil field operator Christopher Lee Watts (born May 16, 1985) murdered his pregnant wife Shanann (34) by strangulation, and their two children Bella (4) and Celeste (3) by smothering them. Chris was a real bore, apparently. I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. On August 13, 2018, Colorado father Chris Watts murdered his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two daughters, 4-year-old Bella and 3-year-old Celeste. I truly hope a movie is made of her in an honest light. Shanann's husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background. Facebook Chris Watts . This is a good thread! R198, I think Chris was better with money, for sure. Yes, there is a way to test whether bodies could be placed through the Thief Hatch with [or possibly without] breaking bones but youre not going to like it, Welcome to the Post Truth Phase of the Chris Watts Case, Exclusive Interview with the Lindstrom Couple, Proof The Third Baby Was All Chris Watts Idea, The Final Three Weeks of the Phone Data Review #2YearsAgoTodayCW. to which CW sensibly says "there's no bringing them back. She was a miserable user. ^^ he would excuse her cunty behavior by saying she was having a bad day but it happened all the time. Everyone was a useful idiot, to her. I followed the guy who was having an affair with Chris for over a year after he came out and he never changed his stories and would go on many details. Pediatricians screen for it as a matter of course. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. R118 Sorry. I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. I just think he lost it. I just dont get the callousness towards the girls. 06:51 GMT 17 Aug 2018. It was all so odd. My dear Lord, she set the most amazing trap on Chris, by putting them in crushing debt AGAIN, which prohibited him from even being able to come up with a measly 10k to hire a lawyer to start the divorce process. Shanann wanted one more child praying for a baby boy. That router article is amazing work Nick! Grieving husband and father. He was charged with five counts . Phil Hartmans wife was another first name changer. She was determined to stay healthy and with her love for her Celeste, every moment with her was a blessing. Ack I live just north of Shannon Shanann Rzucek King Watts and there are lots of places to hike around. ACTION TAKEN: CBI Agent GALBRAITH interviewed LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018. 80,000 was between both of their salaries. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship)https://reachableshop.com/https://www.instagram.com/reachableshop/Before ShanannWatts married #ChrisWatts, She was previously married to Leonard T. King, an attorney who was formerly with Arthur M. Blue Law Offices, P.A. According to Shannans ex, she had many of the same traits as Chris! in Carthage, NC. He was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole, three to be served consecutively. American Murder: The Family Next Door focuses on the 2018 disappearance of Shanann Watts and her two young . Long gone are the days where a Dad is left penniless and without children, although so many posters think that is the deal. Chris watts should never get out of prison. Until her murder, her biggest problem in life was the spelling of her name. I also love when people say she got a huge settlement from her first husband in their divorce. [post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Today, February 1, was Shannan's due date for her unborn baby. Shed go to his friends houses and make fun of them after, for being too small or not having proper china or their decor for being quaint (thats rich). Watts was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Think hes still lying about some details? Billions of dollars.. Ok, well millions anyway. How many of us could say we have friends that would be there the next day looking for us with cops? Stealing the kids identities? A Ryan Murphy miniseries on this needs to happen. Is Colorado NOT a no-fault divorce state? NEVER. R38, Id love to know how they were able to afford their lifestyle, too. And she had some scam going in CO. My guess is she was using the kids SS# to get clean lines of credit. Fact: Hisham Bedwan, co-owner and Shananns boss at Dirty South joked around with Shanann during one of her FB Live videos. Chris clearly has the right to sue Le-Vel. Ill correct this post if I have to - its a three -way conversation with Shanann, Cassie, and Nickole so its confusing. 25 Feb/23. Unless the new lover is a threat to the kids or is causing financial ruin. Munchausen's, and Munchausen's By Proxy! At the time of her death, Shanann Watts was 15 weeks pregnant with a baby boy she planned to name Niko. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. Her high school drama teacher said they called her Shanna ANN. You have some real writing talent. Shananns husband, Chris Watts, 33, can be heard singing in the background.". No doubt he snapped. Regardless she didnt murder her children, the psychopath Chris Watts took their lives . Chris isnt going anywhere, so he should turn her in. The amount received is based on the proportion each ex spouse earns, and the living arrangements for the children, and the poorer spouse gets the difference. And Shanann invites Josh and Cassie to live with them so Josh can get a job with Ace Hardware. Those girls probably ate it all the time. Was she banging him, too? Can you imagine her as a single parent? I thought this thread was entitled 'Let's talk about Shannan Watts' as an excuse to get back to talking about Chris? Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . I'm not going to bother researching Colorado's rules. He had heard about the case in which SHANANN and her children were missing. Her parents called her SHANan. R197, If you watch the videos when she live-streams from the deck, back beyond their house looks like a dump -- literally, the city dump. There was never an investigation in the case, therefore its impossible to know who killed Shanann or the little girls. [quote] in 2018, they were already in debt to the tune of almost 500K. Please click here to register for free. Imagine sitting in a house you cannot afford with two kids and another on the way, and a wife who spends money like it is going out of style and who keeps texting you non-stop about why you aren't responding to her texts, etc.essentially, he married a harpie. Shanann Watts, 34, and her two children Bella, 3, and. And even though I cant stand her, I kind of like how demanding and grifty she was. LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. Rewatching the confession viedo. The girls needed two years of doctor visits before they finally received the correct diagnosis of asthma (the diagnosis was made by a PA). Back to Shan'ann, I think r154 has it right. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. Ill never get tired of speculating about her Munchhausens. The only other option would have been for Chris to be full-time parent. What do you mean needed Chris to pay the bills- they both needed each other to pay the bills. Maybe I will become Jesus. (where they're hugging). LEONARD reported that he and SHANANN married in 2002/2003 and divorced in 2007/2008 in SC.
How much did Shanann have wrapped up in inventory? R194, the Murder Rap Sesh lady interviewed Candice Cans Nantz, who claims to have dated Chris on and off for two years in NC. Fast forward to her fertility treatments. In the August, 2018 video, Chris was was stunningly buff. And Jim Id love to know more. I agree CBH. They were large policies, $250k or $500k. They came out here with no jobs, no place to live, a house to sell in NC, and a wedding to plan in NC. Strange forum, to have no way to upload images. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. Shanann was married once before she married Chris to a man named Leonard King, an attorney in North Carolina. Why are some posters feel the need to say that the toddlers are "ugly". Chris Watts, 33, is charged with three counts of first-degree . Shes the most interesting one, isnt she? The cops never made her google searches public, but i am guessing she did a LOT of searches on her milquetoast co-workers, looking for just the right pigeon to pluck. As an adult, your identity basics, like first name, are already established. And he killed Cece right next to Bella in the backseat. She wanted a Lexus. No wonder Chris was amazed with NK. her husband texted back in June when she sent him a photo of her ultrasound picture, according to a screengrab she posted on Facebook. I thanked LEONARD for his time. I think he was planning to make it look like an accident, that Shanann Wayts came out looking for him, to confront him about his affair maybe. Interestingly, she (allegedly) dated Chris, and was supposed to tak about what he was like, but all she talked about was Shabann. R145, youre right about that. Thank you all for this thread. Re, R113's : "Maybe he didn't want to be full-time parent.". LEONARDs current wife, dabbled in Thrive, which was the same employment as SHANANN WATTS. kenneth leonard net worth 2020. rudd weatherwax ranch; dents in bottom of above ground pool; 12 reasons why we should celebrate columbus day; how to reply when someone says you rock; corporate buyback blackout period 2022; goodbye to childhood home poem. They're standing on a porch and look sweet and feminine. [quote]I dont trust every single thing he said & I still think he cares enough (for whatever reason) about his reputation & how people view him (close friends, family members like his mom & dad, and even Nichol K. and the public) to leave certain things out/fudge the truth about some of the incidents he described. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. You live in Colorado and you dont go on hikes? Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? Please click here to get full access and no ads for $1.99 or less per month. I spoke with LEONARD KING by phone on 08/15/2018 at 1427 hours. Shanann Watts, 34, posted the photo of the shrouded doll on August 9, days before police say she and her daughtersCeleste, three, and Bella, four, were killed in their Frederick, Colorado home, on the northern outskirts of Denver. I knowMARY! Not only the people, but the backdrop to the story: middle class striving, cheap looking overpriced McMansion, Colorado oil country, an MLM scheme financially bleeding the couple, the killer husband's mistress, strife with the in-laws, posing on Instagram as if you've got life all figured out, showing off all the materialistic crap you charged on credit cards, etc. I'm surprised there is so much suspicion about how Shannan afforded that big house in NC. How hard is it to diagnose asthma? Someone who was asking for a murderous rage. But I do wish he had let them live, and just walked off with his truck driver girlfriend. Yes . So she's the Laci Peterson of this generation? Well, she shouldnt have . What bank is giving a 20-something single woman making, what, $40k/year TOPS? LEONARD said that he was very interested in marriage counseling and they went to a couple sessions, but it was virtually impossible to engage SHANANN in conversation. She likely gathered up a down payment from the funds she embezzled from the rim shop, then didn't pay the mortgage. He even put her body next to their feet on the floor of the truck with her head & feet covered with *trash bags* and took an hour driving them to the site they would be murdered at. OK, but we're talking about SHAN'ANN now. (And filed for bankruptcy in 2015!). Not for one second did I think that the big confession Watts gave cops would be so brutal and nasty. Mortgages became harder to get after the 08 recession. Chris Watts displayed Ted Bundy level coldness and emotionally tortured those girls before making them watch him killing each other and throwing their dead mothers body around like trash. We are changing the login scheme for contributors for simpler login and to better support using multiple devices. Dont interrupt me. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Directed by Jenny Popplewell, the 82-minute true crime film uses social media footage and text messages to establish the appropriate context for the familial dynamics. Its endlessly fascinating. And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. He was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. Not sure how often that happens even though Im still friends with my sons ex-wife but it would be very hard not to like her, There is an interview of an ex-girlfriend . Didnt last long, because how can you grift from a call center? I'd consider being three months behind on her mortgage, a husband cheating on her, credit card debt in the tens of thousands at least, and being pregnant were a few of her bigger problems, r51. He was a submissive man, and those kinds are always resentful. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. It is how you build one. It was probably some scam. The FBI agents are being complimented as ingenius interrogators, but their smarminess is also cringeworthy. The comments below have not been moderated, By
She then went to work in Charlotte, NC for a middle eastern guy that owned a tire and wheel business called Dirty South. He assumed that SHANANN kept her policy and would have changed the beneficiary. I bet Shanann whacked out a lot. Whats even MORE puzzling is how she bought that first house. A Colorado man has allegedly confessed to killing his pregnant wife and two young children after giving an earlier interview telling a completely different story. This was all a conspiracy to defraud Anadarko out of hundreds of millions of dollars in a wrongful death suit. It would be the only thing to do, R213. He has changed. He said that she used it constantly when he knew her and she was very well attached to it. In the last 10 years of Shan'ann's life, between October 2002 and January 2012, she appears to have moved an astonishing 20 times. My partner's half sister is like this. Shanann was such a grifter. 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